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28th-Jan-2017 08:02 pm

Маша Гессен нашла себя

Писать про перельманов - тощища, тем более, что Перельман - не педераст, на этой ниве не пожнёшь. Писать про путинократию - ломиться в открытую дверь. Наша Маша обрила обрела цель: ДАИШ даёшь Америке стотыщь шахидов, ничем не отличающихся от предков Марка Цукерберга (разве что тем, что стоящие в очереди шахиды уже никак не окажутся предками Марка Цукерберга).

Не упустите возможности наехать на элитные школы. Маша - пятисемитка, хоть и расово неполноценная.

♣ Когда вы не сможете прочесть эту надпись здесь, вы сможете всегда её прочесть тут. А Оккам пусть бреется сам своей бритвой.

29th-Jan-2017 11:03 pm (UTC)
It's interesting that American literature DOES have quite a few examples of such people. But my personal experience has been the same as yours in this regard: I have seen such behavior from a certain percentage of the first-generation immigrants - but have never been treated this way by Americans who were born here to American-born parents.

In my first couple years in the country, the company I worked for had a VP of sales for North-East, a 100% old-money WASP with a Swedish last name. The guy owned an estate in Michigan, and I mean an _estate_: dozens, if not over a hundred, acres of land, a villa, a custom-built 'garage' (more like a museum) which housed his antique car collection... I have never, not once, seen him being condescending to anybody, or less than unfailingly polite to anybody. Workers at all businesses that bought our machines _loved_ him: when he was doing an on-site visit, the first people he went to talk to were the machine operators, and every wish, every complaint, every comment was immediately and accurately conveyed to both our management and engineering department. The guy was an absolutely fantastic equipment salesman - without ever doing anything crooked or unethical. Coming from the Soviet 'school' of on-the-job interaction, his way of behaving was an eye-opener to me. Frankly, I shamelessly copied some of the ways he dealt with people. :-)

OTOH, I later had to 'break in' a fresh UCLA engineering graduate, a kid from Guatemalan immigrant family. Guy was (still is) quite well-educated, brilliant... and a total asshole towards those he considered his 'social inferiors'. Within two months none of our machinists wanted to have anything whatsoever to do with him - and the kid was completely oblivious to that.

These two examples are just the ones that kinda stand out in my memory when I talk about this topic - but over the years I have had plenty more, in the same vein.

What this tells me is that the phenomenon has been known here and people have been consciously striving to breed it out. And have, for the most part, succeeded. BTW, this may also explain some of the attitude toward certain groups of immigrants who bring in certain cultural mores which the locals no longer find acceptable.

P.S. As to the Trump's attitudes towards women - yes. It's easy to be virtuous and respectful when the only person interested in you is your wife, and even she won't hesitate to kick your ass if you step out of line. It's another kettle of fish entirely when dozens of starlet wannabes are throwing themselves at you, literally fighting for the chance. As much as many things that Trump has said and done rub me the wrong way, I do not think I am in any position to throw a stone at him for this particular sin. Nor, IMO, are 99+% of men in general, who haven't been tested in the same way. De Niro could - if he hadn't failed the same test abysmally. Harrison Ford could - but for some reason he is silent on that matter. Me? Not just no, but hell, no. :-)
29th-Jan-2017 11:46 pm (UTC) - this was a fun comment. thank you!
i had a boss like that. multimillionaire, collected ancient expensive race cars, built and flew planes, had a tall ship and a few estates in Vale Kali and NE - and was extremely nice and normal.

can happen...

very insightful re Trump and his trumpettes.

i did not know about DeNiro. that's too bad.

re "cultural modes".

i am very aware of those, painfully - being a medical educator, a CLINICAL educator in about 60% of my educational role. i see young doctors form the 'stans. most of them - really, most of them - are able to adopt the values we are talking about - respect for the patient, restraint, non-paternalism, empathy, clarity. it's great.

but those who cannot do it - are toxic. and dangerous. sometimes they have a hard landing, but most of the times they are pushed through and graduate. which is disgusting, really....
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